> Site index: [llms.txt](https://ortelian.com/llms.txt) with all pages and descriptions. # Ortelian vs Palantir: which fits mid-market work? Source: https://ortelian.com/ortelian-vs-palantir/ Markdown: https://ortelian.com/ortelian-vs-palantir.md Ortelian vs Palantir for mid-market knowledge work. Where Palantir is the better choice, where a platform plus forward deployed team fits, and how to decide. Choose Palantir when you need its platform and forward deployed model for large, complex operational or government-grade programmes. Choose Ortelian when you want a platform plus a forward deployed team for mid-market and enterprise knowledge work, hosted in the EU, with a clear path for your team to run it or for us to keep running it. Palantir pioneered forward deployed engineering and builds custom applications on its own software for each customer. What we say about Palantir here comes from its own public materials. Ortelian is a different product and a different scale of engagement. For the broader landscape, see [what is forward deployed engineering](https://ortelian.com/forward-deployed-engineering/) and the [map of forward deployed AI companies](https://ortelian.com/notes/forward-deployed-ai-companies/). [Talk to us](https://ortelian.com/contact/) [How we work](https://ortelian.com/how-we-work/) At a glance ## Two platform-plus-team models, built for different buyers. Both put engineers on site and leave you with a platform. The difference is who each is built for, how an engagement starts, and what “run it after launch” looks like. Palantir’s public materials describe forward deployed engineers who embed with customers and build on Palantir’s software. Ortelian pairs its own platform with a forward deployed team for knowledge work in mid-market and enterprise companies. Option Palantir Ortelian What it is A software platform with forward deployed engineers who build custom applications and workflows on that platform for each customer. Palantir says it pioneered the FDE role. A platform for running AI agents on a maintained world model of your company, plus a forward deployed team that redesigns specific work on site. Typical buyer Large enterprises and institutions with complex operational, commercial or government programmes. Mid-market and enterprise companies that want AI to change specific, context-heavy knowledge work. How you start An engagement with Palantir’s platform and forward deployed engineers embedding with your teams. A call, then an audit of about two weeks on site. After launch Applications and workflows run on Palantir’s platform. Ask Palantir how ownership and operations work for your case. Your team runs it or we keep running it for you. Either way, we host and operate the platform in the EU. Where it runs On Palantir’s software, under the hosting and deployment options Palantir offers for that customer. Hosted by Ortelian in the EU. Agents work inside the tools your team already uses. Best for Programmes that need Palantir’s platform depth and its established forward deployed model at institutional scale. Getting the most out of AI in specific knowledge work, with a standard agreed on real examples and a clear run path after launch. When to choose Palantir ## When Palantir is the better choice. Choose Palantir when its platform is the right foundation for the problem, and you want forward deployed engineers who build on that foundation. Palantir’s own job materials say it [pioneered the forward deployed engineer role](https://jobs.lever.co/palantir/5168e8fd-fec1-4fea-b7a1-81bdaea65850) and that FDEs embed with the customer until the problem is theirs. That model fits large, complex programmes where Palantir’s software is already the planned system of record for the work. It also fits when you need the breadth of what Palantir sells across defence, government and large commercial accounts, or when your procurement and security process is already built around that kind of vendor. Ortelian does not try to replace Palantir in those cases. When to choose Ortelian ## When Ortelian is the better fit. Choose Ortelian when the job is to change how a specific piece of mid-market or enterprise knowledge work runs, such as planning, back-office checks or a sales process with many people and sources, and that work depends on context no single system holds. We work on site not because our product needs it, but because your company does. The detail is on [how we work](https://ortelian.com/how-we-work/) and on what an [AI-native deployment partner](https://ortelian.com/ai-deployment-partner/) does. The [platform](https://ortelian.com/platform/) is hosted in the EU. We agree a standard on real examples before we build, then ship in two-week cycles. After launch, your team runs it or we keep running it. Inside an engagement, your own agents can work with the platform through scoped tools. There is no self-serve product and no public API. Honest limits ## Where Ortelian is not a substitute. Ortelian is not a defence or intelligence platform, and it is not trying to match Palantir’s product breadth or institutional footprint. If you need Palantir’s software as the operating layer for a large programme, shortlist Palantir. If you need a global systems integrator to redesign work across dozens of teams, shortlist those firms. If you only need company-wide search, a Work AI platform is a different category again. Related ## Other comparisons and guides. Also useful: [Ortelian vs building in-house](https://ortelian.com/ortelian-vs-building-in-house/), [Ortelian vs AI consultancies](https://ortelian.com/ortelian-vs-ai-consultancies/), [Ortelian vs Glean](https://ortelian.com/ortelian-vs-glean/), and [how to choose a forward deployed engineering partner](https://ortelian.com/how-to-choose-a-forward-deployed-engineering-partner/). Questions ## Questions buyers ask when comparing. **What is the main difference between Ortelian and Palantir?** Both pair a platform with forward deployed engineers. Palantir pioneered that model and builds on its own software for large, complex programmes. Ortelian is a platform plus forward deployed team for mid-market and enterprise knowledge work, hosted in the EU, with a choice after launch for your team to run it or for Ortelian to keep running it. **Did Palantir invent forward deployed engineering?** Palantir’s public materials say it pioneered the forward deployed engineer role. The term has since spread across AI labs, cloud vendors and other platform companies. **Is Ortelian a Palantir alternative for every use case?** No. Ortelian is not a substitute for Palantir’s platform in defence, government or other programmes built around Palantir’s software. It is a fit when the job is specific knowledge work in mid-market and enterprise companies. **Where is Ortelian hosted?** Ortelian hosts and operates its platform in the EU. Agents use models with zero data retention, and your data is not used to train models. Check Palantir’s own materials for its hosting options. **Can we use both?** In theory, for different jobs. In practice, most mid-market buyers pick one platform-plus-team vendor for the work they want to change. Bring the work that is held up and we will say whether it is a job for us. --- ## Let’s work out the fit. Bring the work that is held up. We’ll tell you whether it is a job for Ortelian, or whether Palantir or another vendor is the better place to start. [Talk to us](https://ortelian.com/contact/) [Or email Laurens](mailto:laurens@ortelian.com)